Wer verzweifelt nach diesen bekannten grossen Schokolade-Ostereiern oder Osterkuchen sucht, kann bei http://www.nadia.de eine bestellen (ist sonst schwer zu beschaffen oder aufwendig zu machen).
Meine Grundlage ist Inglis, Kenneth: The Australian Colonists, S. 191-211, sollte das alles da so falsch sein?]]>
Hier ist Marcel aus deinem Vortrag vorhin. Ich habe sofort nach deinem Blog gesucht, damit ich es nicht vergesse, denn man trifft nicht jeden Tag einen Afghanen an der Universität :D. Es war mir eine Ehre!
Allerdings vermisse ich hier im Blog, wonach ich eigentlich suchte, nämlich eine Kontaktadresse für den Fall des Falles, für spätere Zeiten…!!
Mit vielen Grüßen
But it’s not always money that destrys the community.
Old school industrial companies pay a lot of atention toward quality and quality assurance to avoid loosing image.
So if Mysql development process failed, it might not be always the money/business pushing this. It might most likely depend on the development processes and the people working on the project.
It might also be some matter of cultural differences. By experience I know that north american companies very early announce features in their products, that have not even alpha status. In the next release the features become some what beta and you will be able to seriously using them some major releases later.
European consumer are used only seeing features on the feature list of products when they are truly tested and working.
I hope the society of the future will understand how to exploit the community work finding the correct business models 🙂
Saluti da Ninux.org !
Hi Gerard, thanks for your comment. Please let me clarify, I am not questioning new features and I am not commenting on single features or code lines. Talking about your project I am looking very much forward to the new funtions and improvements on Omegawiki (I love your project and have registered a long time ago even though I could not participate yet).
In my blog article I am supporting the views of Monty, that in the long run projects will be more successful (cause they are more stable and tested for example by a large community) than projects dependent on a company, that has naturally its own agenda – to keep the company profitable mainly. Monty is pointing to something I have observed during my engagement with LXDE (http://lxde.org) as well. The group that has started LXDE started working on LXDE in 2005. As I see it most companies would not have done such a long term investement, but a group of open source/free software people did it and now we have a faster and more energy efficient system, where people constantly join development.
So, how about the support of companies? Well, already in August gOS (http://thinkgos.com) announced it will offer future versions with LXDE components. You might expect companies using LXDE will support projects they are using. Actually David Liu hired LXDE developers (part time), like Fred Chien. But at this time, we are still curious to see the code contributions of gOS to LXDE. In fact, I can understand what they are doing in a logic sense – They have to make money, pay developers, pay off their venture capital.
Priorities of companies are different and I agree in this point with Monty completely. Monty gives very convincing examples. Let me quote him again:
MySQL 5.1 was declared beta and RC way too early. The reason MySQL 5.1
was declared RC was not because we thought it was close to being GA,
but because the MySQL manager in charge *wanted to get more people
testing MySQL 5.1*. This didn't however help much, which is proved by
the fact that it has taken us 14 months and 7 RC's before we could do
the current "GA". This caused problems for developers as MySQL
developers have not been able to do any larger changes in the source
code since February 2006!
We have not been giving the MySQL community enough opportunities to
test MySQL 5.1 (too few releases). The reason few releases was made was
that if we would have done a release every month, as we have done in
the past, we would have got 14 RC releases which would have looked
silly and proved that the first RC was made too early. In addition, the
MySQL current development model doesn't in practice allow the MySQL
community to participate in the development of the MySQL server.
So, Gerard, I would prefer not to talk about single implications of new releases to projects and the advancements, but rather the general way we should go with free software. In your case you could probably go a great leap forward with the new release of MySQL. This does not challenge what I wrote concerning development models and different priorities of companies and communities and why I believe a good community where people work together truly collaboratively will always be more successful and offer better software.]]>
We have been involved with the MySQL people on testing our software and we cooperated in the Workbench functionality. Your notion that this functionality is only their for businesses is extremely upsetting and patently false.